I love the fall. It’s my favorite time of year.
But I don’t like the last eight days of October.
Because on Saturday, October 24, 2009, at an 8:00 am board meeting, events were set in motion that forced me to leave a church I had loved and served for 10 1/2 years.
In case you’ve stumbled upon this blog for the first time, my name is Jim, and I was a pastor for 36 years. I’m a graduate of Biola College (now University), Talbot Seminary (now School of Theology), and Fuller Seminary, where I earned my Doctor of Ministry degree in church conflict in 2007.
For many years, I pastored the largest Protestant church in a city of 75,000 people. We built a new worship center on our small, one-acre campus and successfully reached people who weren’t going to church.
But six years ago this week, I went through a horrendous conflict that ultimately led to my resignation. I wrote a book about my experience called Church Coup. The book was published in April 2013 and is on Amazon if you’re interested.
Since that conflict, I’ve written 475 blog posts, most of them on pastoral termination. And over the past few years, I’ve written a special blog whenever October 24 comes around. Call it self-therapy.
I feel great liberty in discussing this topic openly because (a) I will never be a pastor again, and (b) I have already lost nearly all of my friends from that church.
This year, I’d like to ask and answer seven questions about my experience in hopes that my story might give greater perspective to the issue of pastoral termination in the wider Christian community.
Why do you think you were pushed out as pastor?
There are multiple answers to this question.
Financially, after two great years, our church had a rough year in 2009. The shortfall wasn’t anybody’s fault. We were behind budget all year, but we had plenty of funds in reserve to carry us through.
There was no need to panic. But some people became overly-anxious, and began to overreact to a situation that nearly every church was experiencing that year.
We also had a church board with the wrong combination of individuals. They were all good people, but three were new to the board, and everyone was younger than me, so we lacked veteran leadership. The board member who always had my back moved away, and two other seasoned laymen were on hiatus from the board.
So there wasn’t an experienced, calming influence in the group. I believe the board interpreted some things I said in the worst possible light, overreacted to the financial shortfall, and chose a course of action designed to rid them of anxiety but that ended up causing great harm to many people, including the board members themselves and half the church staff.
Three Christian leaders later told me that for years, I had been undermined by a prominent ex-leader who had left the church years before. I knew it was taking place, and could pinpoint those who were being influenced, but without proof, I chose to ignore the behavior. This ex-leader advised the church board during the conflict, but his counsel backfired.
Then the mob mentality seized the congregation. There were all kinds of charges thrown at me, and enough people believed them that I couldn’t stay.
I counsel pastors and church leaders about the conflicts in their congregations, and the situation that I experienced ranks in the Top 5 Worst Conflicts I’ve ever heard about. A former pastor and seminary professor told me, “You’ve been to hell and back.”
I’m still coming back.
What impact has the conflict had on you and your family over the years?
I’ve always done my best to be authentic … to share how I really feel … yet to do so with love and civility. Although I will continue that practice, I’m doing so with much restraint.
*I wonder why God didn’t protect my wife from being spiritually assaulted. I watched helplessly as my wife … who has done more good for the cause of Christ than most of my detractors put together … was attacked in a brutal and destructive fashion by the enemy. She was diagnosed with PTSD and told not to work for one year. I would gladly have taken bullets for her, but she took them for me instead.
*I wonder why the generous and gracious congregation that I served for years turned into a place of betrayal, false accusations, and character assassination overnight. The mercy, grace, and love of God vanished from the congregation, as did forgiveness and truth. People who attended the church after we left told me that the church was never the same after the conflict occurred.
*I wonder why we still find it hard to trust churches as institutions. Over the past six years, my wife and I have had three church homes (18 months in one church, 18 months in another church, 3 months in a church I served as an interim). We’ve also spent nearly three of those years looking for a church home. We’ve probably visited close to 75 churches during that time span (we visited another new church last Sunday) but have felt uncomfortable in most Christian churches. Will that discomfort ever go away?
*I wonder why we’ve had to suffer so much financially. When the conflict broke out, our personal finances were pristine, and we owned a house. We’ve rented six places since then, and my wife and I will have to work well past full retirement age just to survive in the future.
What impact has your book Church Coup had?
When I wrote the book, I wanted to make a contribution to the field of church conflict and pastoral termination and believe that I’ve done that.
The book has sold several more times than the average Christian book, and I’m pleased with the number of reviews I have on Amazon. However, I’d like to remove the lone one-star review because I don’t think the reviewer read the book at all.
Dr. Archibald Hart from Fuller Seminary told me he would include the book in the reading list for his classes at Fuller. A colleague from Pennsylvania quoted from my book in his Doctor of Ministry project. A pastor I’ve never met has recommended the book to church leaders. It’s a niche book, but those who need it will find it. (I spoke on the phone yesterday with a church leader who told me that he wished he had found the book sooner so he could have used it during his church’s conflict.)
I once met with a sales rep from a Christian publisher. He told me that I’d need to shorten the book to 150 pages for it to be stocked in Christian bookstores, but I’m glad I wrote the book I wanted to write … although I wonder why there are more than 20 used copies on Amazon!
Have you heard from any of the people you mention in the book?
Just a handful. I think that the conflict we endured was so painful that nobody wants to relive it.
*Some of my detractors have read the book but don’t seem to recognize themselves.
*Most people decided on the narrative they wanted to believe years ago, so the book changed few people’s minds.
*If I had published the book six months after I’d left my last church, it might have had a positive impact, but because I waited more than three years, most people had moved on emotionally.
*I had already cut ties with 80% of the people I mentioned in the book, so little that I wrote affected those friendships. I didn’t write a book and then lose friends; I lost friends and then wrote the book.
Have any of your detractors made contact with you?
No. There were nine people most responsible for trying to force me out, and not one has ever contacted me directly. One did relay a message to me indirectly through a friend.
Another detractor was a friend for 22 years. He had attended my ordination and even signed my certificate. We have never spoken since he involved himself in trying to undermine me. I’ve been told on good authority why he tried to push me out but I’ve never revealed that information publicly. Although his backroom maneuverings temporarily succeeded, scores of people were harmed by his efforts.
In some termination situations, the church board loves the pastor personally, but feel he needs to leave for the church’s benefit. In other situations, the pastor is doing a good job, but someone on the board despises the pastor personally, and that hatred spreads to others – usually including the church board – which uses “official charges” as a smokescreen for personal hatred.
Six years after the fact, I remain convinced that the attempt to push me out was personal and motivated by revenge. I did not do anything rising to the level of official termination nor did I deserve how I was treated after 10 1/2 years of faithful service. While it feels good to say that, I’ve had to endure a myriad of false charges, most surfacing after I left the church … and my guess is that most people who said cruel things had no idea their words would get back to me.
Some people from my former church read this blog when I first came out. My guess is that almost none of them read it anymore.
I don’t want to hurt people the way they hurt me. I have a story to tell, and I’m going to do so as often and as long as God uses it. But I’m not going to mention anybody’s name in public.
In my blog, I usually don’t reveal the names of people whose stories I recount because I don’t want their names to pop up in a search engine. If anybody really wants me to identify someone, and it’s appropriate, I will do so privately. For example, a friend recently wrote me and asked for the names of the experts who advised me on when to terminate the pastor of a declining church. I felt comfortable sharing that information with him because he’s trustworthy, but I’m very careful with names … unless I mention someone that I admire.
What were some of the charges against you?
In consultation with respected church members, I hired a church consultant who came to the church for a weekend. He interviewed staff, met with the transition team, and attended two public informational meetings. He later told me that those meetings were among the worst he has ever seen, so he witnessed the destruction firsthand.
He wrote a report stating that my wife and I had a future in ministry and that certain members had acted “extremely and destructively.”
Two Sundays after my wife and I left the church for good, a 9-person team publicly stated that there was no evidence of wrongdoing on our part.
But that just made some people angrier. They had to win … even if it meant destroying the reputation of their former pastor.
Let me share just one example of a charge that was floating around my last church.
Before that board meeting on October 24, my wife and I had traveled to Eastern Europe on a church-sponsored mission trip, but someone was telling people that we hadn’t paid for our share of expenses.
After the mission part was over, our team flew to London to rest and see the sights for several days. (Nearly all mission teams do something similar.)
We put all of the charges for our hotel and meals in London on the church credit card. Then when our team returned home, the charges would be converted from British pounds to American dollars (there’s usually a lag in this process) … the charges would be divided up among various team members … and we’d all reimburse the church for our personal expenses.
This was standard operating procedure whenever a mission team went overseas.
But we didn’t find out the charges for more than a month. As soon as we found out, we reimbursed the church immediately.
But one of my detractors was running around telling people that we never paid the church back for those charges … implying that we stole money from the church … and God only knows how many people believed that.
Do you see how subtle such accusations can be?
There are other charges floating around in the ether that I’ve heard about that are just as false. They have caused my wife and me great sorrow over the years.
Here’s what bothers me: the charges were circulating around the church long before I heard about them or had the chance to respond to them. People were leaking information and trying to impugn my character without ever giving me a chance to respond. There was no forum made available where I could answer the charges made against me … and this happens in most churches. It’s one of the least attractive truisms in Christian ministry.
I could never treat anyone else that way, especially a pastor. Could you?
When the charges began circulating, I needed to know who was making them and exactly what they were saying. Then I should have been given the chance to respond, and the charges should have been dismissed.
The problem was … and is … that when people are trying to destroy you, they will continually find charges to throw at you until you leave. And after you leave, they manufacture new charges designed to alleviate their own guilty consciences, to make them believe that their mistreatment of their pastor was justified.
Where do we find this kind of practice in the New Testament?
We don’t.
What have you learned about pastoral termination over the past six years?
I probably had an average amount of conflict over the years in that church as exemplified by the fact that I never seriously considered resigning. I worked hard to resolve every issue and conflict that came my way.
But then a conflict surfaced … and “ended” … in just 50 days.
Yet during those 50 days, I went through a wide range of experiences – physically, emotionally, and spiritually – so I have both a broad and deep range of firsthand understanding about pastoral termination.
Let me recommend three practices that are biblical and that a church’s leaders must institute whenever a pastor is under attack:
*Whenever a pastor is publicly charged with wrongdoing, he needs to answer his detractors publicly and quickly or people will assume he’s guilty.
I was publicly accused of some charges in two informational meetings 15 days after the conflict surfaced. I was told by our church consultant (who attended both meetings) that I could not answer any charges made against me, and I promised him that I wouldn’t. But when I didn’t respond to the charges, some people assumed they were true.
If I had to do it over again, I would have listed the accusations made against me and responded to them in writing after those meetings had concluded. If people tried to argue with me after that, I probably wouldn’t have responded further. But when I didn’t say anything at all, I was pronounced “guilty” in many people’s minds. To many people, silence = guilt.
*Church leaders need to do their best to protect the reputation of their previous pastors.
Sad to say, there is a stigma in Christian circles concerning pastors who have undergone a forced termination. Even though it’s 6 1/2 times more likely that a pastor is pushed out because of a faction in the church than his own sinful conduct, the Christian community tends to turn its back on its wounded warriors.
To this day, I’m shocked and disappointed that leaders in my former church allowed my reputation to be trashed during the year after I left. Some might have answered charges against me privately, but it needed to be done publicly and firmly. One person in particular allowed the charges to be spread. May God forgive him.
*An unjust pastoral termination hurts not just the pastor and his family, but can damage a church for years to come.
Doesn’t David admit in Psalm 32 that he suffered physically and spiritually until he acknowledged his sin to God? Doesn’t this same principle apply to churches as well?
There were attempts after I left to smooth over what happened, but no one was given the opportunity to repent for their part in assaulting their pastor. In my opinion, a church can never fully heal until its leaders reveal the truth about what really happened and allow people to confess to wrongdoing. Until that happens, the memory of that conflict is hidden in its walls … and will assuredly damage its soul.
I realize that some people are going to say, “Methinks he doth protest too much.” Maybe so. But I’ve sensed God calling me to be transparent about the events that happened to me so I can help those He brings my way.
If you or a pastor you know is presently under attack, and you could benefit from an understanding ear and some counsel, please write me at jim@restoringkingdombuilders.org and we can either converse via email or set up an appointment on the phone.
And the God of all grace, who called you to his eternal glory in Christ, after you have suffered a little while, will himself restore you and make you strong, firm and steadfast. 1 Peter 5:10
Covering Up a Pastoral Termination
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There was a murder inside our local McDonald’s three weeks ago.
A woman shot and killed a man – allegedly her boyfriend – inside the restaurant.
Whatever he did or didn’t do, he certainly didn’t deserve to be murdered in public.
This is all we know:
http://myvalleynews.com/local/victim-in-mcdonalds-shooting-identified-as-murrieta-man/
My wife was eating at a nearby restaurant with a friend and saw all the commotion as she was leaving.
I worked two years at a McDonald’s in my late teens, so I can imagine how management handled matters after the police let the witnesses leave later that evening.
It’s possible that:
*Employees were instructed not to talk about the incident with any current or future customers.
*The employees who were working that night were traumatized and offered counseling.
*Some employees heard about the incident later and quit on the spot.
*Those who were inside McDonald’s when the killing occurred won’t want to return for a long time. And customers like me might choose not to patronize that particular McDonald’s just because of the nightmarish memory attached to it. (“Wow, somebody actually died right here on this floor.”)
*After the crime scene was thoroughly investigated, all evidence of the murder was scrubbed clean so McDonald’s could open the following morning.
I have a book buried in a box in my storage area called How to Murder a Minister, and although few pastors are ever blown away (I do have a few articles where that has actually happened), many pastors lose their jobs … careers … and reputations when they’re dismissed, even if they did nothing wrong.
There are some disturbing parallels between this incident and the way that many church boards handle matters after they have unjustly forced out their pastor.
Let me reiterate that some pastors deserve to be terminated because they are guilty of a major offense like heresy, sexual immorality, or criminal behavior. But as I’ve written many times, only 7% of the pastors who are terminated are guilty of sinful conduct. 45% of the time, a pastor’s termination is due to a faction in the church.
So what I write below has to do with those situations where a church board either fires a pastor or forces him to resign for political reasons, not for moral or spiritual reasons:
*Presuming that the board does address the pastor’s departure in public, they will mention it once and resolve never to mention it again. Their attitude is, “There’s nothing to see here. Move along.”
That attitude might work for fringe attendees, but the closer to the core people are, the more they want to know “what’s really going on.” And if membership means anything at all, church members should be told a lot more than they usually are.
*There are people in every church who know the board members personally and may have been fed advance or inside information. (Certainly this applies to the spouses of many board members.)
But there are also others who had no knowledge of any problems between the pastor and board, and some may be traumatized by the announcement of the pastor’s departure. This is especially true if the pastor led them to Christ … baptized them … dedicated their children … performed their wedding … conducted a family funeral … or counseled them during a crisis.
Much of the time, the church board doesn’t factor in these people when they railroad their pastor right out of their fellowship.
After their pastor has departed, to whom will these people go when they need prayer … a reassuring word from God … or help with a difficult problem?
Certainly not to anyone on the church board … or anyone on the staff who might have been involved in pushing out their pastor.
Just when they need a pastor the most, these people suddenly find themselves shepherdless.
*When a pastor is forced out, some people immediately withdraw from the congregation because the pastor is the reason they attended that specific church.
And over the coming months … as the board maintains silence about the pastor’s departure … more and more people who loved that pastor will gradually walk away from that church.
Some Sundays, the pastor’s supporters may even watch the church board serve communion … notice that their pastor is absent … and suffer heartache all over again.
*Sunday after Sunday, it will become increasingly difficult for some parishioners to rise, clean up, get in their cars, drive to the church, walk inside, sit down, and feel good because every time they follow that pattern, they’re reminded that the church board “took out” their beloved pastor.
A friend told me about an incident some months after I left our last church. She came to worship … discovered that she was sitting by one of my most vocal detractors (who was never disciplined) … was traumatized once more … and never set foot in that church again.
In fact, there are people from our last church who didn’t attend any church for years because of the ongoing pain after their pastor was removed.
*All evidence of the “crime” has to be cleaned up and thrown away. Minutes of board meetings must be concealed and buried. Board members must pledge strict confidentiality. They will agree together how they’re going to spin things with the congregation.
Potential questioners are identified … strategies for dealing with them are created … and the board convinces itself, “In a couple of months, everyone will forget all about what happened.”
Because it’s not just the future of the congregation that’s at stake … it’s also the reputations of the board members … who must keep a tight lid on the tactics they used to force the pastor to quit.
I realize there is a limited amount of information that a church board can give a congregation when a pastor leaves a church … whether the pastor left voluntarily or under duress.
The best boards don’t want to harm the pastor’s career, and know if they did, they might be sued … even if the lawsuit goes nowhere.
The worst boards don’t care about the pastor’s career, but they do care about their reputations … and their power inside the church … so they usually share virtually nothing and hope that everything just blows away.
But I believe that for a church to heal, the leaders need to tell their congregation as much as they can, not as little as they can.
The problem, of course, is that as long as the very people who pushed out the pastor stay on the board, they don’t want to do or say anything to jeopardize their positions.
If they tell the truth, they’ll have to resign.
If they lie, they might be able to stay … so they lie.
Many boards disseminate information through the grapevine … emphasizing their virtues and the pastor’s flaws … and tell people, “We can’t divulge anything about the pastor’s resignation” in public, but they’ll turn around and slander him in private.
But the board has far better options than stonewalling or deceiving people:
*The board can announce the pastor’s departure inside or at the end of a worship service, and at least everybody will officially hear at the same time that their pastor is gone.
*The board can call a meeting of the congregation and share a bit more information … maybe even taking some questions … although most boards won’t be inclined to let people make comments. (Such people will be labeled “divisive.”)
*The board can meet with people in groups and share additional information in more intimate settings. A friend told me this is how the board handled matters after her pastor resigned, and I very much like this approach as long as the board is both loving and honest.
But if I’m a member of the church, and the board doesn’t deem it appropriate for me to know why the pastor was forced to resign, I’d do the following two things:
First, I’d contact the pastor and see if he feels free to discuss what happened. If he doesn’t want to talk about it … or if he’s signed an agreement saying he won’t discuss it … wait a month or two and try again … and keep trying until you get something concrete. (His wife didn’t sign an agreement, though, and she may be all too happy to tell you what really happened.)
Second, I’d contact one or two board members and ask for two pieces of information: a written description of the process used to terminate the pastor, and the general timeline involved.
The board certainly isn’t violating any law or ethical standard by sharing the process they used to make their decision, but they need to share something or it just may be that (a) one person on the board pressured the others to fire the pastor, and everybody caved, or (b) the board made their decision hastily.
Without knowing the specific charges, the process or the timeline might be all that is needed to determine if the pastor’s termination was just or unjust.
In the case of the woman who committed murder at McDonald’s, she’s currently in jail. There will be a trial down the road. Witnesses will be called … evidence will be presented … charges will be brought … truth will be told … and justice will be served.
But deep inside thousands of Christian churches, nobody is ever held to account for brandishing the weapon of deception … decimating the pastor’s career … destroying his reputation … and terminating his friendships.
That is, nobody is ever held to account in this life.
But Judgment Day is coming in the next life, and for those who have intentionally sought to harm their pastor … in the words of a young Bob Dylan … “I’d hate to be you on that dreadful day.”
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