“You never need to explain yourself to anyone. Your true friends don’t require an explanation. And your enemies won’t believe anything you say.” Dr. Dennis Murray, Healing For Pastors & People Following a Sheep Attack
On October 24, 2009 – eight years ago today – a coup was attempted at the Bay Area church I had pastored for nine years.
The official board consulted with … and likely collaborated with … the church’s founding pastor (my predecessor) to push me out as pastor.
Somewhere along the line, the associate pastor signed onto the coup, along with churchgoers who were loyal to my predecessor.
Even though I wrote my book Church Coup (published in 2013) as a cautionary tale, I revisit the conflict on this blog every October 24 to see if my perspective has broadened and deepened. (If you’d like a more detailed description of what happens inside a church when a pastor is attacked, my book – which is on Amazon – may be of interest to you.)
I have no desire to convince my detractors that they behaved unwisely or even cruelly, so this article is not aimed at them, but I am including information I’ve never shared before.
This time, I’ve decided to answer eight questions about the conflict, and hope that my responses will provide insight into coup attempts involving other pastors.
We’ll do Part 1 today, and Part 2 in two days.
What was the coup really about?
I believe the coup was really about stopping the church’s mission, which was designed to reach people without Christ.
When I was hired as associate pastor in June 1999, the senior pastor – a friend for years – wanted me to continue his efforts to reach unchurched people.
We served together eighteen months, and then he retired and I became senior pastor. (The congregation had approved me as senior pastor-elect seven months before.)
Over time, I had earned solid credentials.
I had been the senior pastor of an outreach-oriented church in Silicon Valley for seven years and had served as teaching pastor of a similar church. I had also received extensive training from Willow Creek and Saddleback Churches.
My wife had undergone the same kind of training and had served alongside me at the Silicon Valley church. When it came to outreach-oriented ministry, we both knew what we were doing.
So I wasn’t changing the church’s charter, but clarifying it … expanding it … and furthering it.
Several months after I became pastor, I invited Dr. Gary McIntosh – one of the foremost experts on growing churches in the world – to lead a series of workshops for our leadership team, and 43 people came. The time with Gary was extremely productive.
We also had a professional facilitator inside the church oversee the creation of our mission and vision statements … starting with congregational input, and ending with board approval.
So I received wide support for our mission during my first few years, which enabled the church to grow numerically in a highly resistant community and to construct a new worship center.
But toward the end of my tenure, the mission was being sabotaged from within.
Who was sabotaging the mission?
We hired an associate pastor in early 2007 who told me before he was hired that he wanted to be in an outreach-oriented church, but after he arrived, he began to resist the mission because it made him too uncomfortable.
We called a husband-wife team as our youth directors a few years before that, but long after they were hired, they confessed that they didn’t believe in the mission, either.
It was difficult serving alongside key leaders who weren’t with us … and their lack of support eventually became obvious.
For years, I received my greatest support from the official board, and our church grew to become the largest Protestant church in our city.
And with that support, I was able to overcome most staff resistance.
But as 2009 approached, we lost three key board members. All three men were older than me. All three supported me fully. And all three constantly had my back.
As we added new board members, every one was younger than me and involved in business. I naively assumed they were all behind our outreach mission.
On paper, they were. In practice, they weren’t.
They began viewing the ministry through “maintenance eyes,” not “mission eyes” … and in my view, had a “money comes before ministry” mentality.
But the one person most committed to an outreach-oriented church was my wife Kim. I could always count on her.
How did the conflict about mission lead to your departure?
I once had a conversation with a pastor friend whose church was growing rapidly. He told me, “There are many people in this church who are trying to change our direction so we only reach Christians, but I can’t let that happen. You have to keep the mission of reaching people for Christ front and center or the church will go off track.” His comment always stuck with me.
For most of my time in that church, both the leaders and the congregation were solidly behind the mission.
But as we got deeper into 2009, my wife and I were continuing to go in an outreach direction, while the associate and the board were going in an opposite direction … without any formal discussion.
Let me share one story to illustrate this polarization.
As the summer of 2009 ended, we had a part-time staff member in charge of small groups. She did a great job, putting together thirty groups at one point. But when she moved away, the small group ministry fell to the person originally hired to oversee it: the associate pastor.
Only he had never been in a small group in his life.
Every year, we announced that year’s groups at a small group fair. The leaders would stand behind tables and present their groups to interested parties. People would sign up at the tables and write down their phone numbers/email addresses.
In an outreach-oriented church, the leaders contact those who signed up. We reach out to them.
But the associate pastor vehemently believed that those interested should call the leaders instead … and then accused me of “coddling” people when I disagreed.
I wasn’t coddling anybody. I wanted the maximum number of people in those groups because that’s where real life change happens in a congregation. And the best way for people to join a group is for someone to invite them.
But the staff member with zero small group experience thought he knew better than the pastor with more than twenty years of small group experience … and that ministry began to collapse.
And that’s how my last year at the church went. Resistance, sabotage, passive-aggressive behavior … and I could feel it.
And when that kind of climate develops, you’re going to make some mistakes … and every one will be recorded and counted against you.
Just for the record, those who resisted my leadership were all in contact … and later collaboration … with my predecessor.
When did matters finally come to a head?
The year 2008 was the best year our church ever had. We had 785 people on Easter Sunday … had nine Sundays over 500 people … and enjoyed our highest average Sunday attendance ever … all on a one-acre campus that was nearly invisible from the street.
You might recall that 2009 was a difficult year economically, and after two years of generous giving in our church, we were about five tithing families short of meeting our budget, which caused great anxiety on the board.
Even though Kim had made plans for outreach events and two mission trips, the board set up procedures designed to slow or limit those activities. Most of the staff were frustrated by the board’s micromanagement, but the board expected me to keep the staff in line.
I wanted to start a third service to reach a younger demographic, and so with board approval, eleven of us – including two board members and two staff members – visited two churches in Southern California to learn how to add that service.
After many months of work, the board turned down my proposal for a third service at a special meeting, and it became evident that we weren’t in sync.
On paper, our church was still outreach-oriented. In practice, it was starting to flip backwards.
At the next regular board meeting, we started at 6:00 pm and were still going strong by 10:00 pm.
About 10:10 pm, the chairman stated that the church budget was frozen for the rest of the year and that nobody should even ask for more funds.
I was shocked. Nobody had discussed this with me in advance, but it was clear that the board had colluded together in making this decision.
Trying to be conciliatory, I told the board that I had already announced to the congregation that we were going to produce a special drama for our upcoming anniversary called A Divine Comedy. We had already obtained the script and were in the process of holding auditions. The play was going to cost some money, but if we couldn’t find it in the budget, then I told the board, “I’ll ask several people with the gift of giving to donate the funds.”
The chairman responded to my comment by saying, “No.”
What? The board was telling the pastor that he couldn’t raise money?
I should have calmly asked, “What do you mean, the budget is frozen? Who made that decision? When was it made? Why wasn’t I included?”
Instead, I lost it.
I don’t know how long my rant lasted … maybe a minute? … but I told the board that it wasn’t fun working with them anymore and that the staff didn’t want to take any risks because the board had started micromanaging them. (Managing them had always been my job, not theirs.)
After the meeting, I spent a long time conversing with the chairman. I felt awful about the way I had reacted … and knew that everything I told him would quickly get back to the others.
I immediately sought out a counselor to find out why I had reacted so badly. After hearing me and testing me, he concluded, “You are severely burned out and headed for a breakdown.”
(Why did I burn out? The construction of the worship center … finishing my doctoral program … and dealing with board and staff resistance all took their toll on me.)
After sharing this story with a pastor friend, he told me, “Jim, you had every right to be angry.”
I told him, “Maybe so, but I got too angry.”
Many pastors lose it in a board meeting on occasion, but in twenty-five years as a pastor, I never had. In that church, I had a nine-year track record of remaining calm in meetings, but now I had messed up.
I felt like a colossal failure. I never became angry after that, but I know my rant was used against me.
A more mature board might have met together and said, “Jim seems to be under great stress right now. He’s meant so much to this church. Something is troubling him, and we need to find out what it is. Let’s send two board members to meet with him and see how we can help him overcome his frustration so we can all work together in harmony.”
But that’s not what happened.
In the end, the board never spoke with me about that night again. They should have. I was too embarrassed to go to them. I wanted them to speak with me as a sign of love.
Instead, they did something else.
They waited until we were overseas on a mission trip … and then went after my wife.
Why did they go after your wife?
Kim is an amazing woman … maybe too amazing.
And she does a lot of good … maybe too much good.
The board hired Kim in 2001 as full-time outreach director after a search process produced twenty possible candidates. Kim was the only person to survive the first round. She was hired on merit because she knew more about outreach ministry than any other applicant even though others had more formal education.
(One time, we let a major outreach group use our facility for a training meeting. Kim walked into the room and heard the leader using her material. They had stolen it from her outright, but that shows how much her approach was valued.)
Kim was the best leader in our entire church. She had vision … passion … charisma … a great work ethic … and a heart that beat for lost people. As our mission statement put it, she loved to “share God’s unconditional love.”
In fact, several months before October 24, a board member told Kim, “You’re the best thing that has ever happened to this church.”
She learned people’s names. She learned about their families and problems. She recorded what she heard and used that information to help people become assimilated into church life. She started new ministries … recruiting and training leaders to take them over. She shared her faith everywhere.
And she did it all with contagious enthusiasm and a smile.
She was the most indispensable person in the entire church … including the pastor.
But she made a few enemies along the way because she believed so strongly in our church’s outreach orientation … and because, in my view, some individuals were jealous of her influence.
On October 24, the board told me they had terminated Kim’s position effective immediately because, they said, she had overspent her budgets.
When I asked how much she had overspent, I was given a number verbally. I should have asked for written documentation, but I wasn’t thinking clearly.
I did ask for it three days later, but received nothing coherent. Kim then asked for the documentation again two days later when she met with two board members, but was given nothing.
Was it all a bluff?
The bookkeeper later met with Kim and determined she had overspent her budgets by a negligible amount … light years away from the number I was given at the October 24 meeting. A nine-person team from inside the church later investigated all charges and concluded there was no evidence that either Kim or I had committed any wrongdoing.
At that October 24 meeting, the board told me to tell Kim that she had a choice: she could resign or be fired.
And then the chairman made a statement I still can’t believe: the board felt so strongly about their decision that they were all willing to resign.
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I’ve answered five questions so far, and will be responding to the final three questions in two days.
Thanks for reading!
I believe that my understanding of our situation deepens at each passing year, so it is interesting to read your thoughts each year concerning your situation. Actually it was outreach that was at the heart of the conflict at our church. That is a puzzle to me from a Christian perspective as the great commission is rather clear! But from a human perspective, it is quite tempting to become an exclusive club. It is a temptation that needs to be resisted. The results of outreach can be messy…more kids..more people with ideas of how to do things..more people taking away someone’s influence or even their seat in the sanctuary!!! So it’s fairly easy to find a few people who want to sabotage outreach…..and to sabotage a pastor and his wife who are doing effective outreach. I liked the rrtquote about defending oneself. How true it is! But the really positive side of it is that when we let go of the need to defend ourselves, God is fighting that spiritual battle for us. What an amazing source of comfort and rest that is! We most likely will not see or know all that God is doing, but we know that it is good. I’m looking forward to part 2, Jim.
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Thanks for your comments, Sue. They are full of wisdom and experience. In Dennis Murray’s book When Sheep Attack, he interviewed twenty pastors who had been forced to leave, and all twenty were in growing situations. It’s actually the pastors in stagnant churches who have the best job security. Grow your church, and you may have to go. Plateau your church, and you get to stay. The issue is usually control. As a church grows, the board … and the pioneers … fear that the pastor is acquiring too much power, and that he must be stopped at all costs. I sometimes wonder if the reason some people oppose a pastor in a growing church is because the people want to protect their lifestyles … schedules … income … and comfort levels. I’ve already written part 2, but it was too long to post all at once. Thanks again!
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I can say that the core issue that took you down resonates with my experience as well. I had encourage the church, almost 300 years old, that it was time to have a baby (church plant). Tremendous resistance ensued, all related to being sure the church was ‘protected.’
A new church opened up in a school down the road and we lost some people from our 11 am service to the new church. I was right, our church folks WERE ready to help start a church! Since our own church leadership wouldn’t do it, they decided to help another church.
The church did not do a single weekly event geared for outreach. I, too, lost a staff member and a board member who were sold out to the mission of the church. As you mentioned in your book, a few key people act as immunity factors in the church. These two did that for me, and when they were gone (one left to pastor a church, the board member died) the way was open for maintenance-oriented risk-averse staff and leaders to sabotage every effort I made related to outreach.
I am glad I am not pastoring an American church anymore. Only a tiny percentage appear to be on mission.
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Dale, thank you for sharing your story. What is it about outreach that causes Christians who are already in the fold to want to exclude those who aren’t yet inside?
I don’t think I ever heard a word in seminary about the importance of having leaders who have your back as pastor. But those people are worth their weight in gold. The whole topic of a pastoral protector would make a great doctoral study. It’s easy to take such people for granted when they’re doing their best work, but when they’re gone, it’s all too obvious.
I’m glad I’m not pastoring either. I miss the preaching, but the ever-present disagreements and conflicts wore me down. It might be easier for extroverts to handle the people intensive stuff, but it’s hard on an introvert because it drains you of energy.
Hope you’re doing well, Dale!
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Thanks Jim, for your response. I admire your willingness to keep being involved in church at this level of deep intellectual engagement. After my experiences of being kicked out of the church by supposed Christians my desire for any involvement in church is nearly gone. I go most Sundays but I honestly feel I could do without. I started out in my mom’s womb in church and gave it my best for 35 years. Just not much there for what passes as the church in America today.
But I do believe your great work and efforts will help steer the church in the right direction. Keep up the good work!
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I’m so sorry for the pain you have felt at the hands of other Christians. Having gone through our own painful experience, all I can say is that I understand that kind of pain and reluctance to be involved in a church. May God bless you and heal your heart.
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Hi Sue, I think those wounds will always be present. We’ve recovered in our daily lives, but Sundays can be difficult. We’ve visited scores of churches, and sometimes visit a few Sundays, but then find it hard to commit in any real sense. When you’re a pastor, you have input on everything your church does, and you can often make changes as necessary. When you’re a former pastor, and you visit a church, you notice all kinds of things that could be improved, but you have no authority to do anything about it.
I am grateful to God that I experienced almost every kind of hurt and pain during our 50-day conflict because I’m better able to minister to pastors who are in a variety of situations.
May the Lord continue to help you and your husband recover!
Jim
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Dale, thanks for writing and for your support of my ministry. I can resonate with how you feel. My wife and I have tried scores of churches, but usually don’t feel at home in any of them. I don’t want to get close to people because I don’t want to say that i’m a former pastor. My perception is that people treat you differently once they know that fact. So we’re kind of lost in the evangelical world these days. We love the Lord but find it hard to connect with Christ’s church. Maybe it will always be that way.
I hope your book does very well!
Jim
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