While browsing through various tweets on Twitter two days ago, I ran across a three-month-old blog post on the topic of pastors and suicide from Brian Dodd. Here is his article in full: http://briandoddonleadership.com/2013/04/10/pastors-and-suicide/
Dodd states that the pastoral profession has one of the top three suicide rates of any profession, along with doctors and attorneys.
The author had a pastor friend who took his own life, leaving behind a wife, two children, and three grandchildren. The deceased pastor’s suicide note had been posted for a brief time on Facebook.
Then Dodd said this:
“As Christians, many of us should be embarrassed at how we treat pastors, church staff, and their families!!!! Embarrassed!!! These people pray for us daily, go to God on our behalf, study for years to get better equipped to serve us, live in glass houses, sacrifice more than we will ever know, each week feed us God’s Word, and tell us what Jesus thinks about the issues of our life. And we have the unmitigated gall to question their communication skills, insights, biblical knowledge, and leadership skills.”
Here’s the coup de grace:
“If you are someone who is always hassling your pastor, talking bad about him/her, listening to people’s ‘prayer concerns,’ or leading the charge to have them removed, please do us all a favor and just stop. It’s acceptable to address issues, just not in a way that demeans people. And if you can’t do that, do us all a favor and just leave the church … NOW!!!”
My sentiments exactly.
Dodd’s article led me to another one by Steve Vensel on the phenomenon called “mobbing.” Vensel has been a practicing counselor for 30 years. Steve Brown – a wonderful preacher and writer – was Vensel’s pastor for many years. Vensel eventually earned a PhD from Florida Atlantic University by writing about the issue of mobbing. Here’s his initial blog post on this topic: http://www.poopedpastors.com/blogs/mobbing/
The following are my questions followed by Vensel’s answers:
What is mobbing?
Mobbing is defined “as the prolonged malicious harassment of a coworker by a group of other members of an organization to secure the removal from the organization of the one who is targeted.”
What does mobbing involve?
“Mobbing involves a small group of people and results in the humiliation, devaluation, discrediting, degradation, loss of reputation and the removal of the target through termination, extended medical leave or quitting.”
What happens after a person experiences mobbing?
“It is a traumatizing experience that often results in significant financial, career, health, emotional and social loss. Mobbing is unjust, unfair and undeserved. In a church setting the organization includes staff members, elders, deacons, and congregation members.”
How do these people act before mobbing begins?
“The pastor is rarely confronted by individuals seeking to solve an actual problem or there may be a bullying attempt to control the pastor. The mobbing begins as others are pulled in and persuaded that the target is the problem. In churches there is rarely, if ever, a chance for the pastor to face his accusers because of the ‘people are saying’ syndrome and ‘they’ don’t want to cause problems!
How do pastors respond to mobbing?
“Mobbing is progressive and eventually the targeted pastor is so confused by the unfairness of it, and so in shock by the brutality of it, they simply don’t know what to do. . . . pastors are often told not to talk to anyone or they will split the church and that would not honor Christ.”
What is the impact of mobbing on pastors? (For me, this is the most thought-provoking statement in the article.)
“The personal impact includes deep humiliation, anger, anxiety, fear, depression, and isolation. There is often a profound sense of shame (guilt is ‘I’ve done something bad,’ shame is ‘I am something bad’) that works to redefine all previous accomplishments as meaningless and all future hopes as dashed. In short, mobbing often convinces the target that they are failures and always will be.”
Did you catch that? Mobbing “works to redefine all previous accomplishments as meaningless and all future hopes as dashed.” This means that after a mobbing, the typical pastor cannot identify any ministry successes in his past and cannot envision any ministry success in his future.
Vensel goes on:
“While a mobbing is taking place the pastor and his family do not know who they can trust or who they can talk to. Fearing further reprisals they remain silent, deepening their isolation, and become either depressed or physically ill. It is a vicious cycle that, because of the shame attached to it, doesn’t end when they leave the church.”
I have never received a satisfactory answer to the following two questions:
How can professing Christians act this way toward someone called by God?
And how can professing Christians allow mobbing to occur in their own church?
I went through this experience nearly four years ago, and its effects are ever with me. I wrote a book to help me work through what happened, but most pastors don’t have that luxury.
I’m going to try and learn more about mobbing a pastor, and when I do, I’ll pass on my findings to you.
What are your thoughts on mobbing a pastor?
Check out our website at www.restoringkingdombuilders.org You’ll find Jim’s story, recommended resources on conflict, and a forum where you can ask questions about conflict situations in your church.
Having Problems With Your Pastor?
Posted in Conflict with the Pastor, Pastoral Termination, Please Comment!, tagged control freak pastor, manipulative pastors, pastor severance package on July 1, 2013| 4 Comments »
Many Christians are having problems with their pastor.
In fact, here are three common phrases people use to find this blog … along with my thoughts on each phrase:
First: “control freak pastors”
For my money, a control freak is someone who tells others what to do and how to do it.
A control freak pastor tells the janitor, “Here’s how to sweep the stairs.” He tells the women in the kitchen, “Here’s how to organize the refrigerator.” He tells the music director, “Here’s how I want the band to look on stage.”
Since the CFP (control freak pastor) doesn’t trust those around him to do ministry well, he’s constantly telling people, “No, don’t do it that way … do it this (my) way instead.”
While a pastor should set high standards for ministry – after all, we represent God Himself – he needs to recruit gifted leaders, train them, turn them loose, and then take his hands off their ministries.
When people are looking for help with a CFP, I suspect they’re upset because they believe their pastor is interfering with their ministry.
My guess is that a high percentage of pastors are CFPs. Here are two ways to deal with them:
First, ask your pastor, “What does success look like in my ministry?” Ask him to use a single phrase: “There’s no visible dirt on the stairs … you can see and access everything in the refrigerator … band members fill the entire stage.”
Second, ask him, “If I meet your standard of success, will you let me do it my way?”
If the pastor agrees, he only appears to be a CFP. If he doesn’t agree … or agrees and reneges … he may be a CFP … and only you can decide how much you can endure.
Of course, if you’re a control freak … that could very well be the issue!
Second: “manipulative pastors”
What’s the difference between manipulation and motivation?
When a pastor is using manipulation, he wants you to do something because it benefits him. When he’s using motivation, it benefits you.
Here’s the difference:
The manipulative pastor says, “I want every family in this church to give $1000 toward retiring our mortgage so I can sleep better at night.”
The motivational pastor says, “I want every family to give as God leads you so we can retire the mortgage and free up funds for ministry to your family and unchurched friends.”
The manipulative pastor will violate you to get what he wants … and you can sense that intuitively.
The motivational pastor will never make you do something you’re uncomfortable doing.
Manipulative pastors are me-centered; motivational pastors are others-centered.
Here’s a simple question to determine whether a pastor is being manipulative or motivational:
“Do you want me to do this for your benefit or for mine?”
A better question might be, “Do you want me to do this for your glory or for God’s?”
My wife and I once attended a church service where a guest speaker was manipulating people to come to the front. I took her by the hand and said, “We’re out of here.” We left and never looked back.
If your pastor must use manipulation to get people to attend, give, or serve, call him on it … and if he doesn’t change, leave and never look back.
Third: “pastor severance package”
When a church’s governing leaders are thinking about removing their pastor from office, they usually want to know whether they need to give him a severance package … and if so, how much they should give him.
If the pastor is married and/or has kids, the answer is “Absolutely.” Since pastors don’t pay into unemployment, they’re not eligible for it … and most pastors live paycheck to paycheck.
It all depends upon the church’s finances and the pastor’s tenure.
Some church boards choose to give their pastor as little severance as possible … maybe a month or two … especially if the church doesn’t have much money in reserve.
But a good rule-of-thumb is that a pastor be given one month’s severance for every year he served in a church.
In our day, nearly half the pastors who are forcibly terminated never return to pastoral ministry. They need healing … retraining … and assistance … especially if their wives don’t have a full-time career.
Dismiss a pastor without a severance package, and you may destroy his family … and the faith of his wife and kids … or force him to start a church nearby … in which case your church may become his mission field. Pay him well, and he can afford to move away.
Dismiss a pastor with a token severance package … far less than your church can afford … and you may hurt his family and your own church as well.
Do you want God’s blessing on your church? Then treat the departing pastor with generosity and dignity. A friend who served a church as an interim pastor actually went to the church board and got the previous pastor more severance money than he was originally promised.
And if I was a pastoral candidate following a termination, I would want to know what kind of severance the outgoing pastor received because that would speak volumes about how I’d be treated in a similar situation.
I’ll write more about these phrases another time.
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